Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:16 What's up everybody? This is Rowdy Alternative, and today we're here with Steven Contrera, better known as Scoob. Uh, probably one of, uh, the most notable if I do say so myself, uh, photographers, et cetera, et cetera. We're gonna get into it. <laugh>, uh, in the Texas Red Dirt scene. Uh, what's up, scoop? How you been?
Speaker 2 00:00:37 Good man. How are you?
Speaker 1 00:00:39 I'm doing good. You've been staying busy out there,
Speaker 2 00:00:41 Dude, it's been crazy. It's been actually crazy. We've been really busy just outta state and new stuff happening, but yeah. What about you? You busy around there?
Speaker 1 00:00:53 No, not really. <laugh>, no. This is like my main focus recently, to be honest with besides work, but yeah. But yeah, man, let's jump right into it. Um, I did an article on you that's probably, probably a year ago now, I think. It's been a while. Yeah, I too, yeah. So I basically want to just go through a lot of that stuff again and just go more in depth and we'll just, you know, shoot this shit as we go. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:01:18 I'm
Speaker 1 00:01:18 Glad to more conversation.
Speaker 2 00:01:19 Glad to see that you started this thing up. We've been talking about it for a while, or I know you were talking about it,
Speaker 1 00:01:25 <laugh>. I know you every time, like you were the first person to want to do it. Yeah, because I was just, it was kind of an idea at first. I'm like, this would be fun to do. And you're like, dude, let's do it,
Speaker 2 00:01:34 Dude. I'm a big Joe Rogan guy, so I'm like, oh, I wanna, I don't wanna go. I think put me on Joe.
Speaker 1 00:01:40 Yeah. Yeah. I, I wouldn't put myself on that platform, but, you know, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I guess let's start out with the basics, man. How'd you, I guess first we'll talk about your photography. So how'd you, how'd you first get into that? Like, when did it all start? What motivated you to do it?
Speaker 2 00:01:59 Uh, man, it kind of came outta nowhere really. Like, uh, growing up I didn't just like always have a camera around or, you know, I wasn't always into photography, you know, like, I appreciated it when I saw a cool photo and stuff like that. But it, it kind of just hit me way later in life. Like, uh, David, who does a lot of stuff with us, you know, David, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he was like the first one who like had a camera and he was doing video stuff, and he, you know, every now and then he'd be like, here, why don't you, you know, like, you take some photos or something and just randomly was like, man, I kind of, you know, I kind of like this, like I see like the creative side that I didn't really, I don't know, I just never got into it, so I didn't even know. So once I was in, it was just like, oh, him, him putting me on. And then I got a little, you know, a beginner camera and just got hooked to it. Super hooked.
Speaker 1 00:02:52 So, was, was David, like, is, are there any like, I guess you could call him inspirations, but like, was there anyone you like looked to who, like, mentored you or helped you out?
Speaker 2 00:03:02 Um, David, I mean, he mentored me pretty much, you know, like initially just because he, he had, he had a camera. He knew all the things, you know, like, oh, you know, these are the settings you should use, uh, you know, these lenses, whatever, you know. And then he kind of just like, I just kind of went on my own, you know, figured it out. Didn't really know what I was doing until I got to where I was like, oh, I think this is, you know, I think this is cool. People might think this is cool, but,
Speaker 1 00:03:31 But I certainly think it's cool. Yeah. Um, so, uh, who was, who was the first, well, did you first start out shooting for like, like bands or at concerts, or was there something before that
Speaker 2 00:03:42 You did? Uh, no, actually it was straight into bands and surprisingly it was the first person was Reid. Like, that was the first band. Okay. Like, that I worked for, or that I like, did something for. It wasn't even like I was working for them for that moment. But, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:58 So I guess with Reid, how'd you, how did that go? Like that meeting or whatever it was when you first started, how'd that all pan out?
Speaker 2 00:04:05 Um, well actually another David shout out, um, <laugh>, he was, he was going to this show, uh, he was staying with me at, at my apartment in Dallas. And he was going to this show and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go take some pictures for this band, blah, blah, blah. You know, if you wanna come hang, whatever, like, I got another camera you can like, mess around. And, uh, we went and it was Reid and we just met all that day in Fort Worth and kind of, you know, shot this show, hung out a little bit. And then afterwards, I think maybe a couple weeks passed by, you know, I was like, oh, let's, you know, let's go back out. You know, I was trying to go back out on the road with them or, you know, see where they were playing so that I could go and it just, you know, it just started and then like, yeah. Never stopped, really.
Speaker 1 00:04:55 So was it like, did it take a, did you asked them to go like, on the road with them? Or was it vice versa? How'd that work?
Speaker 2 00:05:03 Yeah, well, I was just like going for the hangs really, and to just like, learn more. I wasn't even like getting paid at first or anything like that. I was doing it just straight to, you know, get better and get some experience. And through that it just continued to where like, I was with them no matter what. Or I was with David, we would go, you know, just tear up the road before we were actually even riding with him or like, you know, doing anything like that.
Speaker 1 00:05:29 How long ago was that now? Like what year?
Speaker 2 00:05:32 Going on five years? About to be five years. Yeah, five years. Okay. Since we, since I first like, did anything with them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:05:42 Did you, you click, you clicked pretty quick with her? Or was it tough to be Oh yeah. Around like a new group of people?
Speaker 2 00:05:47 No, I think that's what it was. It was like we all clicked, you know, we became really good friends, like, outside of it, other than like, work stuff or like photography or anything like that. It was just, we all clicked. Everybody was cool. And, you know, to this day like became like friends that I didn't even know I was gonna have, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but like really close friends. So. So
Speaker 1 00:06:11 What, when you go on the road with them, your first time on the road with them, like, was that a big, like, culture shock? Oh, see, like, I mean, cuz that has to be crazy. Yeah. Are there any like, stories or anything from that that are pretty well,
Speaker 2 00:06:23 Just like initially? Uh, so I just, they were going on like a two week run their first like East coast tour. First time going to New York, first time doing a lot of, you know, like a lot of stuff that way. Deep like East Coast tour. And, um, I had, like, I knew that it was coming up, but I was still working a regular job, you know, I had been going out on the weekends, you know, maybe calling off one day to get an extra day so that I could go out on the road, but this is just like when we were right. You know, like we're meeting them. But, so I had like this two weeks notice of that it was gonna happen, but I'm still at my job and I'm like, man, I don't know. You know, like I, if I don't go, you know, I kind of felt like if I don't go, I might be missing out on an opportunity. Yeah. So I, they came up, you know, couple days before I just quit my job, uh, never went back, went on the road with him. And, uh, yeah. The rest is history. <laugh> kind of,
Speaker 1 00:07:31 Well, I mean, that's a, that's a big, uh, step. I mean, you're going in this thing, you don't know about how it could turn, turn out. Like I can't
Speaker 2 00:07:40 Imagine that. No, I had no idea. You know? Yeah. It could've, it could've lasted those two weeks and that been it, you know, like, oh, you know, thanks for coming, whatever. And, you know, I didn't even know if I was gonna get paid or not. You know, I just wanted to go like, just be there, do the thing, you know, like take a good, like major step.
Speaker 1 00:08:01 Right. And you said five years ago, right? So mm-hmm. <affirmative> that, what was, what did Reid have out at that point? Was that still borrowed time?
Speaker 2 00:08:10 Uh, borrowed time. I think the live record had just come out.
Speaker 1 00:08:14 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:08:15 Yes. And, um, yeah, so they were just, you know, yeah. That had just dropped. So it was kind of the middle stages.
Speaker 1 00:08:23 Okay. So there, but they're still relatively new, so you're like, yeah. So at that, yeah. I get how that could be really a crazy thing to decide on the spot leaving a job, but
Speaker 2 00:08:36 Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:08:36 It worked out. It worked out. No,
Speaker 2 00:08:38 It worked out. I hated my old job. So <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:08:43 Um, so photographers, the, like, that's your main thing you do mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but I've also come to learn that you pretty much do everything creatively. Like you're creative director, correct?
Speaker 2 00:08:56 Yeah, that's what we, I would like to, you know, label it. Maybe it's not that, but it is, you know, that's how I look at it, you know?
Speaker 1 00:09:04 Yeah. Cuz I've seen, like, I'd like for you to talk about it a little, but I've seen you, uh, I've seen you, like, you design like the, the little posters, like you post up, here's the next tour dates.
Speaker 2 00:09:15 Yeah, I do a lot of all that stuff. I do a lot of graphic stuff, uh, for our social media and, uh, work alongside our like, management group to like, come up with ideas, you know? And, you know, they might be like, oh, we need something for these, or you got any, anything cool, you know, for this, for these shows or whatever. Um, so yeah, graphics, like really, that was another thing that kind of came outta nowhere. But I was also into that before mm-hmm. <affirmative> I started, so it just kind of all meshed like weirdly, it just weirdly all came together to where it was like, oh, I love Photoshop, let's <laugh>. Yeah. Let me make something, you know, <laugh> and so, yeah. But it's not all me. I don't wanna take all the credit. We have John, he does a lot of posters. He's our guitar player. He's been like mm-hmm. <affirmative> doing a lot more art stuff, shout out, and he's really diving in and taking off. Like, it, he's, I don't know. He's been killing it.
Speaker 1 00:10:11 Yeah. I saw something he put up recently. I, it, I can't remember what it was, but it was, yeah. I thought it was something you came up with at first and it, it ended up coming from him. When did, when did he get into all that, if, you know?
Speaker 2 00:10:24 Uh, I don't really know. I feel like it's, we're getting closer to a year maybe that he like, started drawing. I'm, I feel like he's always been doing like, creative stuff anyways, drawing and stuff like that. But before he like, actually was like, oh, I wanna make something for bands or whoever, you know, hit me up. Um, yeah, not too long. He's still new into it, but I mean, he's, he's taken off with it.
Speaker 1 00:10:51 Yeah. It's, it's some damn good stuff. Yeah. Um, so do you do merch too? Like designs for merch, all
Speaker 2 00:10:58 That, or No. No. I mean, that would be cool, but, um, <laugh> no other people do that. It's, it's a mixture. It's a lot to just do what I'm doing too, you know?
Speaker 1 00:11:09 Yeah, yeah. It's hard to like, think about. And I've just recently been like, discovering how big of a project it is. Like it's not just the band controlling all this stuff. Yeah. Like you and Yeah. You're talking about your management group, like, so many pieces.
Speaker 2 00:11:28 It's, yeah, it's, it's come a long way because it used to just be like, us, like sitting around like, oh, what, you know, what's cool? Or what do you think would be cool on a poster or what, you know, what are we gonna do, blah, blah, blah. And so yeah. It's, it's grown a lot and it's cool to have so many creative people, like in one space, all working around like the same idea. It makes it easier for me when you have like, so much to take in from people, you know, so many ideas. And it's like, oh, I, okay, I got it. You know?
Speaker 1 00:12:00 Yeah. Um, so when you, I've seen you, uh, shoot for Austin, I've seen you shoot for him a few times, Austin meet. Do you like, is that like kind of like your off time thing to do? Like, did you like, try to find gigs to go to or?
Speaker 2 00:12:17 Yeah. Uh, I'm not just like, out taking gigs, you know, like, I'm not just like very open. But, um, when I do have off time, sometimes I don't want to like be out on the road or, you know, that is understandable.
Speaker 1 00:12:31 That
Speaker 2 00:12:32 Is, that is the off time, actually. So I don't, but if it is like Austin, you know, like I'll go out with him. I have another buddy, Carson Jeffrey, who is mm-hmm. <affirmative> pretty much from 20 minutes down the road, so he's, if he's got anything going on, you know, sometimes I'll go with him, but we're just so busy that I don't really have the time.
Speaker 1 00:12:53 Right. Like, I've, some of the dates for, for Reid, like, it's really cool seeing him. Like, I saw a mountain indie, uh, it was cool seeing him like over here for, I know he came to like, like in the past he's come to like, uh, like in Tennessee, I think he went to like Memphis and of course probably Nashville. Yeah. But it's cool seeing them going like more and more places. Um, but you, you were talking about, um, you're not very, like, you're not open to everybody. So as like, this being your profession, is there like a process? Like if someone will come up and say, Hey, scoop, do you wanna shoot for this without, if you don't want to be controversial, you could say whatever, but is there like a certain like, like, like selective process for that?
Speaker 2 00:13:40 Um, I wouldn't think it's a selective process. It's more of like, not just gonna turn anybody down, but I'm also like not reaching out to people that it's people that I like, you know, that I would listen to mm-hmm. <affirmative> and that I think need some help or that could use my help. Or just somebody that I'm like, oh, I, I just wanna shoot for this band. Like, even outside of this scene, that's like what I'm would like to say. It's not just like, oh, don't hit me up in this scene. But <laugh>, there's just other bands. There's just other bands in, uh, other genres that I would like to, you know, do when I am off. That would be cool, you know, to like shoot for a hardcore band or shoot for another band that I like, or like a rap show or something like that. Like, just to branch out a bit.
Speaker 1 00:14:24 Who comes to mind when you think of like, someone outside of the, like your little niche, like hardcore or rap? Like who are some people you'd like to shoot for or have shot for?
Speaker 2 00:14:33 Um, haven't, but I would love to shoot Return Style. I'm addicted to turn style right now. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:14:41 Yeah. I've seen your, uh, your posts and everything. You seem super into it.
Speaker 2 00:14:46 <laugh>. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're, they're crazy dude. I saw them live and I, I was like, man, I wish I was, but, uh, just didn't, didn't happen. But I mean, bands in those scene, in that scene would be cool. Uh, I don't know. There's a mixture of people that I would like to, like to shoot for.
Speaker 1 00:15:06 Yeah. So Turns Style, I'm not very familiar with them. What like, kind of music is that?
Speaker 2 00:15:13 Uh, hardcore. Hardcore. It's, it's, it's hardcore. It's hardcore based. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Stems from hardcore, but their new album is so, it's such a mix. It has like this disco, disco feel and like this poppy style to it, but it's still hardcore just a mesh, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But they, they do it so perfect to where it's just like, the blending of the styles is just like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 00:15:41 Yeah. It's, it's funny you said that. I was just thinking of that recently. Uh, like a lot of these metal bands could really, they really know how to fuse together that pop sound. Yeah. Without sounding too, like over the top with
Speaker 2 00:15:52 It without getting away. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:54 Yeah. And you'd probably know more than me cuz this certain sub genre of metal I'm not super into. But I want to say, um, who's sang that Zombified song? It's like, new, is it? Um, that's killing me. I can't remember. I wanna say it's either like falling in, no, I don't know. It's,
Speaker 2 00:16:17 Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1 00:16:19 I don't know. But it's like those kind of bands. I don't know. Yeah. I never got too into those. Unfortunately. I'm, I'm old school with my middle <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:16:28 Yeah. Yeah. I never got too middle. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I didn't, I didn't dive into metal. Um, kind of stops really at what they would call hardcore I guess. But, um, yeah, there's a lot of bands that I didn't get into cuz it's just, I don't know, the heavier side just never caught on with me. I guess
Speaker 1 00:16:50 You gotta have some melody in there, not just the
Speaker 2 00:16:53 Yeah, I'm on Melody.
Speaker 1 00:16:54 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:55 I need the melody. <laugh>. I don't need the, yeah. Straight screamed.
Speaker 1 00:16:59 All right. Charlie just told me it is falling in reverse. I don't, I think that's what I said. Falling in reverse, so. Yeah. Yeah. So, but, um, you're really into rap, aren't you?
Speaker 2 00:17:10 Yes.
Speaker 1 00:17:11 I, I saw your, I, I saw you like, uh, you put something up with your vinyl collection, I think. And didn't you have like a Kendrick album or something?
Speaker 2 00:17:22 Yeah, that's dude, I love huge fan. Huge Kendrick fan. But yeah, I have a signed, I have a signed Kendrick, uh, damn record. Uh, it was like an exclusive drop, like when it first came out. Okay. And you had to like, it was like, you had to be there, you had to buy it then. And, uh, yeah, it went away super quick. Um, but yeah, that might be one of, of my coolest ones in my rap like category.
Speaker 1 00:17:53 Okay. Let's talk vinyl. You wanna talk vinyl?
Speaker 2 00:17:56 Let's talk vinyl. I love vinyl.
Speaker 1 00:17:58 All right. What if you could think of three off the top of your head that you have your proudest of having, whether they're limited edition or you just like having it, what would that be?
Speaker 2 00:18:09 Mm. Okay. My Led Zeppelin collection.
Speaker 1 00:18:14 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:18:15 Yeah. Pretty proud of those. Uh, also took me a long time to get all of them.
Speaker 1 00:18:21 You got all of them?
Speaker 2 00:18:22 I have, well, not all of them, but I have all four, the first four. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:18:26 Which,
Speaker 2 00:18:26 Yeah, just to like, you know, end that, that part of their thing, the 1, 2, 3, 4 before they started doing other, other things, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:35 The meat and potatoes.
Speaker 2 00:18:36 Yeah. The meat and potatoes. The beginning. Yeah. But getting those all first edition was a struggle, like all original. They're not all, um, meant, but just finding, finding the ones, uh, that even aren't meant is like, hard enough. Yeah. Especially, especially original, but I would say Led Zeppelin. Um, I have some Rolling Stone stuff. That's cool. The limited edition Kendrick is up there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> way up there also signs, so it, it takes a big jump.
Speaker 1 00:19:12 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:19:14 Um, I don't know. What, what do you, what do you got? What are you working with? I got some bangers in there hidden. I can't think of 'em right now though.
Speaker 1 00:19:22 That's all right. Um, well, I tried not to catch the vinyl bug because Yeah, I know
Speaker 2 00:19:29 It's tried not to.
Speaker 1 00:19:30 I tried not to. And they opened a record store down the street, <laugh>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I went into the like little used section where they're all like $1, $2 a pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I ended up leaving there, spending like 20 bucks <laugh>, and just had a handful. But I'd say the coolest one I got, I have a, it wasn't a first pressing, it was like a second pressing of Abbey Road.
Speaker 2 00:19:55 Oh, nice. Nice. So
Speaker 1 00:19:56 That was nice. Really cool to get. Really? Yeah. I'm afraid, I'm afraid to play it sometimes.
Speaker 2 00:20:00 Oh, dude. Yeah. That's, that's where it comes to, like, I've played those Zeppelin ones a couple times just to, you know, I had to do it. They were already opening. Oh, yeah. I just had to, had to do it, had to do it. I can't blame it. Um, not just spinning them every day, not just pulling 'em every day. Right. But the Abbey Road I have on my radar, um, I've got some Beatles stuff, not a whole lot, but I try to shoot for the first pressings, you know?
Speaker 1 00:20:25 Yeah. So you're like a collector.
Speaker 2 00:20:27 Yeah. I would like to, if I'm gonna, yeah. If I'm gonna go and collect it, like, I would, I would like to have the one, you know, the mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the original one, blah, blah, blah. Whether it's min or not, like I would love a mint one, but also if it's in con good condition, like let's save it
Speaker 1 00:20:44 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. But like, I sometimes, like the cool, like, I also have not all the Van Halen, but, uh, I have, I think, like, I think Van Halen won, uh, I got, um, 1984, but like, that one's held together with literal, like masking tape <laugh>. So, but it's like, I gotta get it. Like, if it plays and plays, I don't care what it's held together with.
Speaker 2 00:21:13 Yeah. Uh, you'll find those. Finding ones with good covers is like another hard thing to do just because that's what wears down over the years. And people mm-hmm. <affirmative> messing with it. Kids opening bite marks on it, you don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 00:21:29 Yeah. And you get like, the ones from, uh, like if you get like, one from the seventies or eighties for some reason, I don't know what's up with these old people, but I guess back in the day, they all decided to like scribble their name on it. I don't know if you've seen them before. Oh, dude. Dude. What's that old,
Speaker 2 00:21:44 What is that? What
Speaker 1 00:21:46 Is that? I don't know. It's like, why
Speaker 2 00:21:48 Is that a thing?
Speaker 1 00:21:49 It's like, you see it like, I, like, I have a, uh, you know, the grassroots old sixties psychedelic band? Yeah. Yeah. I have, I have one of theirs, and it was signed in like four places. I'm thinking, is this signed by the band? And it's only $2 and maybe it like, slipped through the cracks? No, it wasn't, it was just like a whole bunch of kids probably from then just started writing their name on it. Yeah. It's like, I don't, I don't understand. They do the same with baseball cards. I don't get
Speaker 2 00:22:15 It. Oh, dude, don't write your name on anything. Like why, why are you writing your name on it? Yeah. I don't, especially like, on the front cover, just like two, or not even two is just like their name written on there,
Speaker 1 00:22:26 Like Right, right across Paul McCartney's face. I'm just gonna scribble my name real quick.
Speaker 2 00:22:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right over it.
Speaker 1 00:22:31 Yeah. I got the, uh, re the Reed South, all vinyl in the mail. And
Speaker 2 00:22:37 It was, did you, which one did you get?
Speaker 1 00:22:39 So I pre-ordered the, um, when you first put the pre-order out. Yeah, I got that one. And it was before I found out that there was signed editions that were coming out. Ah. So it's like, I do wanna get one of those, but I'm also kind of poor right now. <laugh>. But No, it's really cool. Like the yellow finish on it, all the artwork inside, like it was, yeah, it was great,
Speaker 2 00:23:05 Dude. I love it. We've been wanting it for so long. Just vinyl in general. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, just to have, but to have the new album, like on Vinyl is really cool.
Speaker 1 00:23:15 Yeah. Is is that, do you know anything about like, that process? It was like getting the vinyl in? Like,
Speaker 2 00:23:21 I feel like it was kind of a hard process. I think there was like a wait time. Maybe it wasn't like that. It was hard to do. It was just, there was, uh, some kind of delay, you know, like getting it, because I even noticed that with, um, going back to Kendrick Lamar, he just put out an album mm-hmm. <affirmative> and you're, you're expecting to like, see Oh, vi you know, the, the release day stuff. You know, it's like, oh, here's the vinyl, here's the merch, here's, here's all this that goes with the album. And no vinyl for like, the first, I think it's been what, a month? I think it's been maybe one month since it came out. Yeah. And they just put out the vinyl like yesterday. Really? So yeah.
Speaker 1 00:24:01 That's, that's maybe they like, want to see how the music sells before they, but I mean, he's also a millionaire. Yeah. So like, does he really care?
Speaker 2 00:24:09 <laugh>? Yeah. You know, everybody's gonna listen to it. So it's like, I
Speaker 1 00:24:12 Don't, he's like one of the greatest of our generation. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:24:15 Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:24:17 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:24:18 Um, he kind of had me scared. I was, I was waiting patiently, but I was also like, are they just, nah, what if they just don't, you know.
Speaker 1 00:24:26 Yeah. Like, um, I'm a Limp Bizkit fan. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's kinda rare to hear nowadays. But Yeah, they put their album out, uh, I think it was last October. And I, and me and you we're both into like the physical copy stuff. Like, we like having physical.
Speaker 2 00:24:42 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:24:43 And they didn't put, uh, not even a cd, no. Vinyl, like put a cassette out. That'd be cool. From Limp Bizkit put like a cassette tape out. Yeah. But yeah, they didn't put nothing out on that. It bugs me. But
Speaker 2 00:24:57 Yeah. I've been trying to dive into cassettes too. Speaking of cassettes, they're in Arms Reach. Let me just show
Speaker 1 00:25:03 You some shit. Yeah. Show 'em off.
Speaker 2 00:25:05 Let's, let's, let's get the, oh, there's a
Speaker 1 00:25:07 Best album. Best album by Santana.
Speaker 2 00:25:09 Best album. Best Album. Also have it on Vinyl.
Speaker 1 00:25:11 You have that on vinyl?
Speaker 2 00:25:13 Yes. First Press on Vinyl. That's
Speaker 1 00:25:16 The one with, um, soul, soul Survivor? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2 00:25:21 Yeah, I believe so. It's, it's the, it's the one. It's the one too. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:27 That's his best album, I think. I think that
Speaker 2 00:25:30 Was, yeah, the first one, look at the artwork is just crazy. Look at the artwork.
Speaker 1 00:25:33 Yeah. And
Speaker 2 00:25:34 That was the artwork alone.
Speaker 1 00:25:35 I think that was around Woodstock. So he played a lot of those songs at Woodstock. And there's
Speaker 2 00:25:39 Yes,
Speaker 1 00:25:40 Yes. Crazy footage of, of him at Woodstock. I
Speaker 2 00:25:43 Love, I love that video. Have you ever watched that documentary?
Speaker 1 00:25:47 Uh, which one? I, is
Speaker 2 00:25:48 It like the Woodstock documentary?
Speaker 1 00:25:50 Like the main Yeah, I've seen it. I think it was on Netflix.
Speaker 2 00:25:53 Yeah. Or it's the one where there's just like cameras everywhere. Like it's, yeah. They have it's dude. For them to have done that and like, thought that far ahead, like, we have to make a documentary is insane. It is
Speaker 1 00:26:06 Insane. And it's like, there will never be anything like that again. Like,
Speaker 2 00:26:11 No, they've tried it. It's, it's the time period. It's the time period though too. It's like, you could do it again. Yeah. You could probably do it again. Let's throw a festival. Let's throw a festival and have everybody come and let's make it huge. But it's just like the time period and whatever, everything that was going on Yeah. Plus just how people were and how the world was, are just so different. Like, it was like, everybody's just laying out in the grass. No phones, you know, like the smoking Zero, zero Cares, <laugh> tripping, chiefing Blunts. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:26:41 <laugh>. Yeah. It was like, and like the talent, just the talent that came from that. It's like, oh my
Speaker 2 00:26:46 God. The lineup.
Speaker 1 00:26:46 You had the lineup. Like you had, of course, like you got the big ones, like Hendrix, Santana, but like, you also had, um, like Canned Heat. I love Canned Heat. I don't know. Yes. Amazing.
Speaker 2 00:26:58 They have the one song that I never know the name of it
Speaker 1 00:27:01 Going up the country.
Speaker 2 00:27:03 Yes, yes. Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1 00:27:05 Yes. Yeah. They're killer. They're killer.
Speaker 2 00:27:06 They're killer.
Speaker 1 00:27:07 But, um, yeah, you'll, you'll never, I don't, you can see it again, but it's just like, you gotta have the talent there and Yeah. I don't like, I don't know if it was all about money back then or what, because mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I think they might've ended up at a loss in that whole thing. Cuz there was so much that went wrong.
Speaker 2 00:27:25 I think. I think that's what it was. I think that's how they like, ended it. Right. It was like we ended up making nothing or, or just lost money. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:32 And there was, I think they got sued up the ass like <laugh> like so
Speaker 2 00:27:36 Many times for everything that happened. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1 00:27:38 People died. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:27:40 Yeah. Babies were born.
Speaker 1 00:27:42 Babies were born. People were
Speaker 2 00:27:44 Getting babies were
Speaker 1 00:27:44 Born, ran over with a tractor. People
Speaker 2 00:27:47 <laugh>. Yeah. Like what?
Speaker 1 00:27:49 It's crazy. But they did try to do it again. Woodstock 99
Speaker 2 00:27:54 And 99
Speaker 1 00:27:56 Is, even though that ended in an absolute tragedy,
Speaker 2 00:28:00 Chaos, tragedy,
Speaker 1 00:28:02 I think I would still love to go back in time and see that,
Speaker 2 00:28:07 Oh dude, I would love to go back. Yeah. I would love to go back and just experience whatever was going on there.
Speaker 1 00:28:13 Yeah. Are are you in
Speaker 2 00:28:14 Just like, what, what were y'all doing? You know, like, what were y'all talking about? What were y'all, what was up? What were you even thinking about? What was happening is what I want to know. <laugh>. Like
Speaker 1 00:28:24 Yeah, like what were you worried about? Like right now we're worried about like gas prices, uh, Ukraine. What were they worried about back then? You know what I'm saying? Like Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:34 It's,
Speaker 1 00:28:35 When you think about that, that's just nuts.
Speaker 2 00:28:38 And and it's also like, what were they actually into? Like, who did people, were people so psyched about this lineup? Or were people there for certain people, you know, like it's, it was legendary to us looking back, but like, did anybody even care really? Or did they know that? Oh yeah. It's
Speaker 1 00:28:57 Like, this is special.
Speaker 2 00:28:59 Yeah. Because it's like people going to a festival now, you know, like most people are like, oh, I want to see the, these people. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then there's all these other people that could be super good that they're like, oh, I don't, I don't know them, I don't listen to them or whatever. But
Speaker 1 00:29:14 Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes the best part of the festivals all the time is discovering these new bands that you never would've heard. Yeah. Like, do you go to a lot of festivals or do you ever try to make it out to any, or,
Speaker 2 00:29:28 I haven't done like, the festival thing, like on a major, like, like a major rap or like a major pop festival or anything like that. Just no. Okay. Haven't got to it yet.
Speaker 1 00:29:39 Right. There's a lot, lot out there in Texas, man in Oklahoma around that area.
Speaker 2 00:29:44 Yeah. I mean our, our like scene stuff, you know, those festivals? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, L J T and uh, calf Fry, stuff like that. Coke Fest was really cool. Yeah. Turnout there was crazy. Um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but yeah. And other, other scenes like, I haven't really done yet, but I'd love to. I'd love to go to Coachella if it wasn't a million dollars to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:30:04 Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:30:05 But <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:30:08 Do do you, uh, I, the first time I saw Reid was at, it wasn't even a festival, it was like a rodeo. It was called Cavalcade. And it was out in, I think you say you started five years ago. Shit, I don't know if, I don't even know if you were, you're
Speaker 2 00:30:28 Probably, I don't think I was.
Speaker 1 00:30:29 No. Yeah, I was out in Pawhuska. You know, that's a small town. I
Speaker 2 00:30:33 Don't, I don't think I've been there. But
Speaker 1 00:30:35 Yeah, I mean, I, I hardly remember it. I just remember seeing his blonde hair bouncing up and down. Cause you know, where was it? It was in, I always mispronounce it cuz I'm from Kentucky, but it's like Huska Paul Huska Pa Huska. Yeah. But yes, Oklahoma. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:51 Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 00:30:52 Yeah. Yeah. But, um, and then
Speaker 2 00:30:53 I, no, I don't think I was, I don't think I was in there yet.
Speaker 1 00:30:56 I saw him at Calf Fry though, uh, in 2019? 2018. 2019. One of those. But yeah. Yeah. Crazy. It was crazy fun time.
Speaker 2 00:31:09 Yeah. That, that festival gets wilded. Um, I'm sure I didn't do l j T this year. Uh, we didn't play, but I don't know how that one is still going. But those are both usually just the wildest ones.
Speaker 1 00:31:24 Really.
Speaker 2 00:31:25 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:31:26 Yeah. Um, so Firewater Festival is coming up in Yes. September I believe.
Speaker 2 00:31:36 Dude. Pumped for that.
Speaker 1 00:31:38 Dude. I might have to go to that one. That's like,
Speaker 2 00:31:41 I mean, that's, if you're gonna make anyone, I would definitely come to that one.
Speaker 1 00:31:46 Yeah. Cuz can't you like camp there and like it's
Speaker 2 00:31:50 Yeah. It's like a hu I think, uh, we didn't do the last one, but I mean, I saw the stuff about it, you know, their posts and stuff. Sorry, I'm No,
Speaker 1 00:31:58 Go ahead. On
Speaker 2 00:31:58 My computer. Right. Fine. I'm trying to check it out. Um, <affirmative>. But yeah, you can like camp out. There's like little Lakes and stuff around. I think they have a couple different stages set up. So stuff's going on all the time, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:32:14 Cuz it's, it's, it's Whiskey Meyers Festival that I, I
Speaker 2 00:32:18 Was, yeah, it's it's their own festival, but they're throwing it out of state, which is, it's different, but I love that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, go do it. Go do it somewhere else. That's cool. You know, that's, that's
Speaker 1 00:32:28 Sick. Yeah. And I was, I think I, it was, um, Aaron Austin's drummer, I was talking to Aaron and he said, um, yeah, that they pick each artist individually, like the guys in the band. So that, oh, that has to be pretty cool that, you know, you guys are picked for that. So That's pretty crazy,
Speaker 2 00:32:47 Dude. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pumped. Uh, the, that lineup is really cool too.
Speaker 1 00:32:52 Yeah, it has. Um,
Speaker 2 00:32:53 To get to do with them, uh, Blackberry Smoke, which we've been doing a lot of stuff with recently. They're super killer. Um, and also Austin coming out. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I think that's cool.
Speaker 1 00:33:05 Them Dirty Roses too, right?
Speaker 2 00:33:08 Them Dirty Roses. Uh, Quaker City, NY Hawks. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:33:12 <affirmative>,
Speaker 2 00:33:12 The Georgia Thunderbolts. Yeah. Goodbye June.
Speaker 1 00:33:16 God. Yeah. I got, I might have to go to that one.
Speaker 2 00:33:19 It's, it's, it's stacked.
Speaker 1 00:33:21 Yeah. How was the, uh, that Livestock Festival <laugh> out here in Kentucky?
Speaker 2 00:33:27 Livestock
Speaker 1 00:33:28 Festival? I think that's what they called it. Was that, it was with, um,
Speaker 2 00:33:31 Was that last weekend? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:33:33 With, um, in Sharpsburg. I think it was called Sharpsburg, Kentucky. Oh
Speaker 2 00:33:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:33:40 Yeah. How'd that all pan out? Was it a good time Burg?
Speaker 2 00:33:43 Uh, it was really cool actually. Uh, the place you're just like out on a ranch kind of, or is what they were telling me. There was like this, this used to be like a big ranch or whatever back in the day. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I guess there's a bunch of land there still just open and they built this giant stage or this cool like complex. It's like in these rolling hills. Um, I mean it's, they picked a perfect spot for it.
Speaker 1 00:34:07 Yeah. Cuz Sharpsburg, I, how
Speaker 2 00:34:10 Far is that from you?
Speaker 1 00:34:11 So, yeah, that's like two and a half to three hours. Uh, but Okay. Funny thing is that not funny. I'm actually really salty about it, but I was literally planning on going to that and I thought it was this coming week,
Speaker 2 00:34:28 So. Oh no. I
Speaker 1 00:34:29 Was like, I went on to look for the, uh, like tickets and everything.
Speaker 2 00:34:33 Pulled one
Speaker 1 00:34:33 Of those. Yeah. And I went to look at the tickets the night you were playing <laugh>, like, damn. Yeah. But, oh, well, I'll
Speaker 2 00:34:42 See you guys. No, it was cool. Yeah, it was cool. A lot of cool bands. A lot of rock and roll like bands played, which is a new, like a new thing, but a cool thing to like be mixed in with, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> playing with Blackberry and playing with these more, more rock and roll bands. Um, it's just cool to see how everybody's like mixing and even people that like, I didn't know, but like, you hear them and it's like, dude, these guys kill,
Speaker 1 00:35:08 You know? Yeah. And the thing about Reid is that, that's rock and roll music. You could put whatever label you want on it. Like Yeah. You can't say, oh, that's country music. You know what I mean? They can't set 'em in one camp, which
Speaker 2 00:35:20 Is No,
Speaker 1 00:35:21 That's the cool
Speaker 2 00:35:22 Thing about it again, you know? Yeah. I mean, he could be all of those things, you know, he can be the mixture, but you know, they're going, obviously they're going more rock and roll and it's cool to see. And it, I love the music. I love what they're, you know, like stuff they have have coming, but Yeah. You can't really box them in, in one thing. Right.
Speaker 1 00:35:42 Like, further Birds was excellent. That was like, I didn't know what to expect. Cuz cuz there wasn't like when was the last album before that one? Was that the, uh, live one?
Speaker 2 00:35:55 Yeah, the live one. Yeah. So, so I think before that it had been like three years, three or four years since they like, had put a new, you know, like a new fresh, all fresh music.
Speaker 1 00:36:04 Yeah. And like, you, you guys were, you're dropping the singles and everything to it, but like, I didn't know what to expect, you know what I mean? Cuz it's been such a like, kind of a long, not long, but like, that period of time. So in a lot of bands can change over that, but Yeah. Yeah. That was so many. First off, the guitar work on that was brilliant.
Speaker 2 00:36:26 Like, oh man.
Speaker 1 00:36:27 Because didn't you guys add John, like, between that period or?
Speaker 2 00:36:33 Um, yeah, so John had taken a break. Oh. And we had Ryan mm-hmm. <affirmative> and um, I don't know how long that went, but then John ended up coming back, which was badass because we got to have both of them. Uh, which is like the best of both worlds. You know? You couldn't ask for a better duo really. Yeah. Um, for them to come back and like, collab on it and finish it out and Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:36:58 What's your, that's cool. What's your favorite track on that one?
Speaker 2 00:37:02 Um, I love to say Time to Kill Just right off, you know, it just comes right off the tongue first, first to come to mind, just cuz it's like their heaviest song I feel like that they've had mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:37:13 <affirmative>.
Speaker 2 00:37:14 Um, also Don't Let Them Get You Down, which is another super heavy one, but Time to Kill. I, I love that song. Dave definitely would be like, oh, that's not her favorite song, but
Speaker 1 00:37:24 <laugh> Well, I mean, yeah. Those are excellent songs. Uh, the one that really grabbed me was, uh, rose Gold. I remember when that one that like single dropped. I'm like, holy shit. This is like a whole new level. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:37:39 That was the thing about the singles is that you didn't really know, like you said, you didn't know what to expect because it, it was, uh, each different thing, you know, it, it didn't all kind of just, it went together. But when you have it mixed up like that mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you don't know what else is in there. So it's like, oh, we don't know what we're getting. Really.
Speaker 1 00:37:59 Yeah. And you really got like a mixture of like, everything. Cuz you had that country western song in there. Um, there we're where it went, which was amazing. Like, it just shows like the talent. Cuz like, if you could pull that off, it's like, it's nuts.
Speaker 2 00:38:14 I'm glad they did that. I'm glad they didn't just like take it off. I, it's, I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:38:20 It, it was great. And like, cuz when was the first single off that one Where We Belong? I believe?
Speaker 2 00:38:27 Um, I think it was, yeah. It was actually, um, sticking and moving. Oh
Speaker 1 00:38:32 Well. Yeah. Okay. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:38:34 But there was like, like a some time stretched before Right. The next song, which was where we Belong. Yes. And that was like December of, I don't, I can't remember exactly. I
Speaker 1 00:38:43 Know, but 2020 I think. But
Speaker 2 00:38:46 Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 00:38:47 Yeah. Cuz sticking and moving like that, that still sa sounded like, kind of like the older reed stuff. It had that hint, the like more bluesy kind of stuff, which is great, but when, where Yeah. Where We Belong came out, that was like completely different I thought.
Speaker 2 00:39:01 Yeah. Like, I mean, that one kind of just, I don't know, it it, it is just so different for them, but also is totally them and like what they, you know, what they would make, but it was their first time like putting it out or putting it all together, you know.
Speaker 1 00:39:18 So are you there for that like, creative process ever? Like is that pretty nuts?
Speaker 2 00:39:24 Uh, I'm there for some of it more of like studio time stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but they kind of get together and, you know, they, they lock themselves in and you know, they, they go in and nobody mess with us. You know, we're, we're working right now, uh, come back out with bangers. So.
Speaker 1 00:39:41 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:39:41 I mean, <laugh>, it's, it's good. They have a good process of like getting away and like just putting their minds together, you know? Yeah. Like, let's all sit here and let's actually do it, you know? Right.
Speaker 1 00:39:55 But, uh, yeah. Where we belong. That sounded like a weird, a weird mix between like Coldplay and, and like Kings of Leon or something. Like
Speaker 2 00:40:08 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of kings of Leon in there. Um, yeah. It's just like all their inspirations. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, it's, you can hear it in the, in the record. You know, you can hear it's them, them making their music that they wanna make, you know? Right. And it's, that's why I think it's, you know, it's my favorite. Um, just because that's what they did. You know, like they, they changed it up, you know, they didn't just put out, um, what you would expect mm-hmm. <affirmative> or what people would've expected. They, they reached out and they killed it.
Speaker 1 00:40:42 Yeah, definitely. And, and I think the other two people I've had on here, I've had the same conversation with about this, but it's crazy to see like, the progress that y'all seen is going through. Um, you could call it Texas country all you want, but the fact is it's just Texas music. Cause you can't, it's just progressed and just, it sounds so different. It's like a tree kind of like snaking off in different ways.
Speaker 2 00:41:12 Yeah, yeah. Totally. It's, it's not even, it's not even the same as when I came around and it was Texas country seen or considered that in a way. Um, but even in just like the five years, not even, even before that, it had already like, changed into something else.
Speaker 1 00:41:32 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:41:33 It's, everybody's just doing what they wanna make mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And that's, that's, that's the coolest thing. It doesn't have to be labeled one thing. Like you can all, you know, you can do what you want. Yep.
Speaker 1 00:41:44 I agree. Yeah. Um, let's go back to, um, your work and, and everything. We kind of get off top of it, but that's okay. Um, no, you're good. Uh, so when it comes to like the photography aspect, do you also do the, uh, videos and stuff like that or?
Speaker 2 00:42:07 Um, every now and then I'm, I'm recording, but we also have, you know, a video guy. So when, when we, when we're doing stuff and he's out, you know, he, he handles more of that and I get to just focus on one thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but I mean, I'm, I'm always recording stuff and, you know, helping piece things together. Um, but yeah, I've done a couple solo video. There's a couple solo ones out there that have, that have been posted that I kind of did. But usually it's, it's David and, uh, like a mixed, uh, team operation.
Speaker 1 00:42:38 Okay. Right on. Yeah, dude. Uh, how is Red Rocks? Because that looked <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:42:45 Insane. It's, it was mind blowing. I felt like nobody even thought that we did that Right. For like the next couple days. It was just like, everybody's just like in a shock. Yeah. Like, did we actually do that <laugh>? Like were we even there?
Speaker 1 00:42:59 Right.
Speaker 2 00:43:00 Insane. Just going to the place and like seeing it way hours before. You're just like standing out there and this giant place just in the most perfect spot that you could have picked. And the city's in the background, you go to the very top. Also, let's talk about how steep these stairs are. Yeah. Oh my God. There's people out there that just like go just to work out. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, cuz it's open to the public for I don't know how long.
Speaker 1 00:43:27 Really?
Speaker 2 00:43:28 A couple hours. The, the place is kind of just open. You can go, they have like some shops and stuff you can check out the place cuz it's like a historical whatever, like a historical location. Okay. So you can go and just kind of hang out and that's what people are doing. Like in the morning time, people are just like, on those giant stairs, which are like, not your average stairs. Just like three foot, you know, like one step. So like, when you're on those, those aisles, you see all those people, they actually have a lot of room there to like stand. They're not so jammed as it seems, you know, there's a lot of room. But <laugh>, there's, there was this guy that was just like, dead. I walked, I'm walking up the top and like I get to the top and I'm like, dude, like that was like, that was a journey getting up here. And there's like this other guy that's just dead, sprinting up from the very bottom, just sprinting. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> catching every step, going all the way to the top. Didn't stop. Didn't like even hesitate. I'm like, dude, <laugh>, this guy is crazy.
Speaker 1 00:44:25 Yeah. Cuz those things are like super steep, right?
Speaker 2 00:44:28 Yeah. It's, I mean, it's pretty steep. Like, they even even have a separate like staircase, which is like an easier staircase to go up to get to the top. It's just like your average staircase. But those steps are, it's just like long, long strides all the way
Speaker 1 00:44:42 Up. Yeah. It look, it looks cra it looks scary just to like, sit on <laugh>. Like, I feel like you're just gonna fall forward. Yeah. So is that, what, what are some venues like that, that were like, like one of those bucket li bucket, uh, list places to shoot at?
Speaker 2 00:45:00 Um, trying to think. Um, that was more of like a bucket list. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> venue. I mean, obvi obviously just what it is and like, being that place. But, um, I'm trying to think of cool places that we've done. There's a lot that we've done that have been really cool. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that I didn't know about, you know, like, uh, the Novo or the Nova in, uh, Norfolk. Yeah. Crazy, crazy venue. One of the coolest venues. It was like a elevator to the, to the thing to the green rooms. They had like giant, giant areas to hang out a basketball court up there. And it's like, this is just existing in Virginia. Like, nobody even knows. Um, I don't know. There's been a, there's been a lot, man. It's, it's like so much has happened so quickly that it's just like too much, too much to take in sometimes.
Speaker 1 00:45:57 Is it overwhelming or is it like,
Speaker 2 00:46:01 It's definitely overwhelming, I would
Speaker 1 00:46:03 Say. How do you It's, go ahead.
Speaker 2 00:46:07 No, I Go ahead. <laugh>. Uh,
Speaker 1 00:46:09 It was like, how do you like manage that? Cuz like, as both like creative director and you're on the road with these guys and you're still trying to find some time to relax. Like, you always hear about how hard it is for the band members themselves, but you're along for the ride with them. So how do you manage that time? Like, is it hard?
Speaker 2 00:46:28 Man, it is hard. It is hard. It's hard to like, um, mix in your, like, time that isn't dealing with this, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, to, to get away. That's like the best thing. Just, just get away and do you for a little bit, which is nice. Uh, I come back home and, um, I'm here and I can kindly just like, decompress, uh, from like, being on the road and like start editing. I'm in my space. I'm away from everybody. Um, it's good to get away and like, just take time when you can. So like, that's why I'm not, I'm not just like eager to go out on the road on weekends mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Like if, if I have the time off, even if, even if I am here working, you know, like editing or whatever, I'm still just here in my space, you know, doing my own thing. And it just takes away from like, constantly being on the go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:47:29 So, so what, what do you do then in that spare time? You get like, be home? Is there any, like, anything you like to do in particular? Uh,
Speaker 2 00:47:39 I mean, when I'm here, I, when I'm here, I still find myself at shows. Yeah. Which is weird. Like I, here I am talking about, yeah, I take time, but I'll go to like a turnstile show or like, if somebody's playing around, you know, somebody cool that I can check out, it's cool to go and just not have to do it. You know, just take in the show, you know, don't have to worry about taking photos or Yeah. What we're gonna do for the show or whatever. Just go and enjoy, enjoy music just naturally like everybody else.
Speaker 1 00:48:08 Yeah. I didn't even, I didn't even think about that. Um, <laugh> you're so used to Yeah. Working. So it must be awesome. Be able to just take it all in and watch a show.
Speaker 2 00:48:19 Yeah. And it's, it's not a always a R s B show, you know, like, I, I see RSV shows every <laugh> every week. Probably seen the most r sb shows of anybody. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:48:28 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:48:29 Probably <laugh>. Um, so yeah, it's, it's cool to like, just get out and see other stuff, uh, get some inspiration. That's where I get a lot of inspiration from other, other people, other bands, other, other just mixes of photography, like fashion and whatever. Just diving into other stuff to get your mind working on other things comes back to help you mm-hmm. <affirmative> in your, what you're doing because oh, you'll go experience this and you'll take something from that and be like, oh, I could, I can apply this here, or this will work with this, with this like, idea that we have. Um, or I should shoot a show like this more, you know, you find find something cool that you learned in another little alley of photography and then apply, you know, mix it all together.
Speaker 1 00:49:16 Yeah. So you're talking about you do like fashion shoots and everything. Is there, are you interested in like maybe doing a side project or anything? Like, besides the concert stuff?
Speaker 2 00:49:31 Yeah. Uh, I'm always thinking about other projects that I'm gonna do or that I would like to do. I have stuff that I'd like to do. Um, it's just like, when can I do it? Yeah. You know, or, or when am I gonna actually actually do it? Because I could find the time, but I don't know, there's, there's just, it'll come around to it, you know? Like there will be a moment where it's all ready to go. Yeah. That's, and we can, you know, we can really do it how I would like to and not just rush into something and
Speaker 1 00:50:03 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:50:04 It not be what I wanted. Right.
Speaker 1 00:50:06 So when you, when you're working, and this is the most fascinating thing about photographers for me, is when do you know when, when, like, is there a perfect shot that you, that you're looking for throughout the night? It's like, oh, there it is. Or like, is there something you look for like a moment?
Speaker 2 00:50:27 Um, there's moments, there's moments, but there's also those moments, like you said, it's like you took it and it's like, oh, there it is. You know? Um, it's, I think you're looking for it, but it kind of just like, it finds you, you know, like it, the moment aligns where you're in the perfect spot and it, he's, you know, Reid's in the perfect spot or, or Ryan's like, doing something really cool solo and the lights are perfect. You're, you're, you're prepared. Like you're, you shot it and you were like, oh, that's the one. Like, that definitely happens like throughout the night. Like there will be those five and that I'll like, keep in my mind, like, I'll remember when I took that. So I go back and I'm like, oh, these, that's crazy. These were the ones, you know? So
Speaker 1 00:51:10 Like even before the editing all that, you're just like, you know which one it is.
Speaker 2 00:51:16 Uh, yeah. I mean, you'll know just because I don't know if you've done it long enough, you know, you, you, you find those ones, but also just you creatively like what, what stood out to you the most or the coolest shot that you thought would be, you know?
Speaker 1 00:51:34 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:51:35 But, um, yeah, you definitely know. I, but I go in with kind of a process. You know, I've, I've shot so many shows that I know, you know, different things are gonna happen at different times. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, that, you know, there will be a, there will be a moment where Ryan might turn this way. I know he's gonna turn this way <laugh>, and if everything's right here I am, you know, that that's a moment that I can always like, bet on. Yeah. But then there's those other moments, there's those other random ones that you're not prepared for, where it's like, oh, I was just lucky that I was here, you know, lucky to be standing where I was and got the photo because you definitely miss stuff, you know, you can't, you can't be everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:52:17 So let's close out on this. Uh, do you have any advice, because I personally know a lot of photographers, so I can't imagine how many are out there. So like, could you give mm-hmm. <affirmative>, any, like, a few things that you could say to these guys to like, boost their confidence or anything to like, tips on getting in on this realm of photography and like, creativity, like with the music scene?
Speaker 2 00:52:46 Um, yeah, I think you just have to go for it. You know, you can't, the more you wait, um, thinking that you, you're not gonna get a chance or that, oh, I could never, you know, I could never do this. Like, they're, they're doing this. I could never, you totally could do this. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like go, you totally could do it. Um, somebody is gonna, somebody's gonna notice you if you're putting in the work. You know, like you're putting in the work and you're, even if you aren't like, ready, like I, I wasn't ready. I had to learn while I was doing it. And eventually got to a point where I was like, oh, you know, like I think I'm, you know, know, I think I'm a lot better than I was. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So don't just think that, oh, I'm, I don't have the, the right camera. I don't, you don't really need that. It doesn't come down to that, you know, learn on your, I had a Canon, t3, t3, I, or something, T five I or something like that, and shot with that for a couple years, you know, beginner stuff. And it, it'll, it'll come to you. Don't, don't just like give up thinking that you can't do it, you know, because I, I feel like that's, that's what a lot of people run into. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 1 00:53:57 So what do you shoot with now? I know nothing about cameras, but I'm sure once this comes out, a lot of your photographer buddies will listen to it, hopefully. So like, what do you, what do you shoot with now?
Speaker 2 00:54:09 Uh, Sony a 73. Yeah. I feel like it's pretty popular amongst the other photographers in the scene. Uh, a lot of people are going Sony, whether they have mine or other ones, you know, other newer ones or, you know, even older Sony's. It's just kinda the camera for what we do. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But they're also like, great. Like, they're not just, they're not just a good product for concerts. They're, it's a great product all around in photography right now, so.
Speaker 1 00:54:39 Yeah. Right on. So I guess if you have any plugs you wanna throw out there, any of your socials or websites, go ahead.
Speaker 2 00:54:47 Um, scuba shots on Instagram, it's like the main place to find my stuff. Um, that's where I go to first for everything. Um, I'm on Twitter. Scoob spelled weird. I'm still trying to get Scoob. You the Scooby Do have, we talked about this.
Speaker 1 00:55:04 Oh, go ahead. What was it?
Speaker 2 00:55:06 I'm, I'm trying to get the at Scoob, but I can't get it because Scooby-Doo movie. Oh yeah, yeah. Like, has has it. It's like an animated movie that came out a couple years ago and I don't even think I've ever seen it or has, has anybody seen it? I wanna know because, and it's, I'm trying to get the at, if you can help me, Alan, anyway, like maybe this will will get it too for me.
Speaker 1 00:55:27 Yeah. It's hilarious that you say that cuz now I know what you're talking about because preparing for this, I was typing in your stuff. I don't know if it was on Instagram or Twitter or what. And all I could find was Scoob with like an exclamation mark. I think that's what the movie is.
Speaker 2 00:55:41 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah, that's the movie. That's the movie they have the at and it's just like a movie that's done now. You know, they can't really do anything else with it.
Speaker 1 00:55:48 They come out with a sequel.
Speaker 2 00:55:49 Just let me, let me, let me
Speaker 1 00:55:51 Have a Scooby do, what else could they do with Scooby-Doo?
Speaker 2 00:55:54 There's no more man. But yeah, scuba shots on Instagram is the main place to find all my stuff reads South Hall Band. Uh, it's where a lot of my content goes. Um, a lot of stuff that I don't post on my stuff goes on there. So if you wanna see more stuff that I'm doing that's like another great spot to see it. Um, but yeah.
Speaker 1 00:56:15 All right man. Well this has been fun. I hope you had fun. This
Speaker 2 00:56:19 Was fun. Yeah. Yeah, this was cool. I'm glad you're doing this, man. Yeah. Um, just trying
Speaker 1 00:56:23 To support you guys.
Speaker 2 00:56:26 Yeah, it's cool. It's cool that you're doing it. I'm glad you like made the jump cuz like I said, we were talking about it, but I didn't know when you were gonna do.
Speaker 1 00:56:33 It was a process. It was a process to get together, but we, we finally figured it out. <laugh> we're rolling. This is actually the, we're doing three. You're the third one We did, um, Aaron and Ricky, and then we did Austin Upchurch and, um, we wanted to get three in before we start posting them. So after this we should start seeing it start to come out. And then
Speaker 2 00:56:55 Do I, do I go before Ricky and Aaron? Uh,
Speaker 1 00:56:58 No. You'll, I mean, probably, I was thinking just going to this order, but you guys could duke it out.
Speaker 2 00:57:05 I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. You need to have us all three with smoking chimney bros. Oh. Are
Speaker 1 00:57:10 You a part of that too?
Speaker 2 00:57:11 Did they, did they tell you that? Are you
Speaker 1 00:57:13 Inducted?
Speaker 2 00:57:15 Oh, I'm inducted. I'm the only, only other one inducted.
Speaker 1 00:57:18 They failed to mention that.
Speaker 2 00:57:20 They failed to mention. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:57:22 Maybe.
Speaker 2 00:57:23 I have to let
Speaker 1 00:57:24 'em know. We'll have to get three of you on.
Speaker 2 00:57:25 Maybe they, maybe they kick me out. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:57:28 Maybe there's some, there's some beefing going on, man. But we'll have to have like three of you on every week for a little smoke and chimney update. I think that's what we're gonna have to do.
Speaker 2 00:57:38 <laugh>. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 00:57:39 But, uh,
Speaker 2 00:57:40 Yeah, I'll be down for that. But,
Speaker 1 00:57:42 Um, so I'm gonna sign off here. Just stick around. We're gotta have this all upload and everything, but I'm gonna go ahead and sign off. So, okay.
Speaker 2 00:57:49 Cool.
Speaker 1 00:57:49 Everybody, this was, this was Scoop. He gave your plugs, following them. Follow 'em wherever you can. Uh, this is Rowdy Alternative. My name's Sam and I'll see you guys later.
